In this Guardian interview, past JAI speaker Naomi Klein talks about her new book No Is Not Enough: Defeating the New Shock Politics, which examines in detail both the phenomenon of Trump and how liberal and progressive forces might counter his reality: “It is not like [Trump] is taking advantage of an external shock, he is the shock. And every 10 minutes he creates a new one. It is like he has these lasers coming out of his belt.”